October 24, 2009

How to prepare for CEED


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Hi,
We all know you rock… u are a techie with a knack for art. You r not satisfied with engineering, since the drawings are not ‘aesthetic’ enough for you. So what you need maybe a design degree that combines the art and technology, something new and innovative. You know that you are born to be a designer. And you need that M.Des degree real bad. But there is a glitch… its called CEED. Is it a glitch after all? Lets simplify the issues. How to prepare for getting into M.Des?
1. See the previous years papers
You need to set up a strategy of what you will face. Good if you have a friend in IDC or NID, who can help you with some old papers. If not, then see here. This site will help you give some last 3 years of paper. Study them well, to know what will be asked.
2. Sketching saves, and is fun too
Good if you can sketch cartoons. CEED requires you to sketch some everyday objects. This should include representing objects as they are, with their material and texture. You need not be too great still life artist, but you should be able to convey through your sketches well.
3. Learn Freehand sketching
Most of the time using instruments is not allowed in CEED. It will help you to learn basics of freehand sketching. The best way is to sit with pencil and paper and try to sketch.
4. Practice with the right equipments
Fortunately for CEED, all you need is pencil and brains. So what pencil do you use? Always try to use 2 grades of pencil: H-grade for rough work, light drawings, etc and B for rapid work and where shading is involved. A wooden pencil works best, but sometimes a 0.7 mm pencil is best kept in reserve. Also, pack a non-dust eraser. Kneadable eraser is the best, but slightly expensive
5. Improve Visualization skills
What you see is what you draw. Sometimes, you have to “see” in your mind. This is visualization. So, first try to get best picture of what you want to sketch in your mind, then think about it, and then put your pencil to the paper. Try this: How would a glass mug filled with water look?
6. Enhance Creativity
It might be helpful to think laterally. For example, list 10 uses of a coin other than currency. And do this within a minute. I hope you get the point.
7. Read daily comic strip
This might sound silly, but comic strips actually are an example of a storyboard. Sometimes questions are asked to represent a storyline, say, how will you make a cup of tea. This will need your sketching skills as well as story-telling ability. So don’t just laugh at jokes in comic strips but see how they have told it, and why they have draw things in the way they appear.
These tips will help you enhance your skills and help you crack the CEED, but ultimately the skill lies within your practice and how well you practice. What is written above is my experience and something else may work for you, so feel free to experiment. Do write to me about your experience.

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Nishita said...

very helpful... thanks

Shrikant said...

Thanks Prasanna,really providing directions...

Puppy said...

Hi Prasanna,
Thanks a lot for the lines. Really encouraging.

devswat said...

thank you prasanna

Prasanna Gadkari ( Design student at I.I.Sc.) said...

Thanks. This post is not complete yet. Plz mail me if u need anymore specific help :)

B.L said...

Thank you .Your tips for the preparation for ceed is very much helpful.........All the best:)

harshvardhan said...

Desr prasanna ,
thanks for your support , i have some more doubt , that is . i have done 4 year diploma in tood and die fron NTTF after my +2 , and now working as design engg , now i want to do join for Mtech From CEED , so please tell me am eligible for CEED exam or not .
waiting of your reply .
thanks and regards
harshvardhan

harshvardhan.nefab@gmail.com

nitin said...

Thanks a lot, prasana I got in NID-A ... very encouraging

Anonymous said...

Brilliant! add something about creativity too

Suhani N Mehta said...

can you please tell me coaching classes for ceed in mumbai

Suhani N Mehta said...

and which are the colleges preferred for visual communication / interaction design

Prasanna Gadkari ( M.Des at I.I.Sc.) said...

@Suhani N Mehta : For Visual Communication and Interaction design NID and IDC are the best.
As far as classes are concerned i dont know any. Besides that classes are not really necessary, all you can do is practice sketching everyday objects as well as story boards of simple activities... that should be enough.
Thanks for dropping by :)

sai said...

very nice article prasanna....thanks for that.....I heard that ceed is just qualifying and there are specific tests at the institute....please do write about that and let u know....

Prasanna Gadkari ( M.Des at I.I.Sc.) said...

@Sai
Yes, you have said it right. There are internal tests as well as interviews at most of the institutes.At IISc there is a Design Aptitude Test (DAT) and an interview for who make it through DAT. These internal exams mainly test ur skills. There is no preparation that can get u though these except a requisite skill set and a good understanding of design. All the design schools will do is hone these skills later on.Thanks to ur motivation, I intend to cover it in blog sometime later. Plz do let me know if u want something in detail. Thanks :)

ROhan said...

Hey Prasanna
urs stuff was the least confusing and quite straight forward thnx for that..
I am an engineering graduate(in computers and pissed off with IT industry) and going for CEED this year, basically i know i have decent creative ability but lack any theoretical and basic knowledge in design. Can u suggest some website or book or at least some topics that i should cover, like i know colors is something i need to work on.
What else??

Prasanna Gadkari ( M.Des at I.I.Sc.) said...

@Rohan
Your question inspires a new post :)
Read it here

Arya said...

Hi, Prasanna,
First of all. Thanks for crystal clear help..

I am not satisfied with my (Automobile) Engineering too...
So, nice meeting you...

Can you spot some light on Softwares?
I want to know if work done with softwares will be considered at the time of Interview? or they still would like to check us on sketches and conventional design skills even after clearing CEED ?

Prasanna Gadkari ( M.Des at I.I.Sc.) said...

Hello Arya,
Nice to know that there are ppl bored with automotive engineering and I am not the only one :) Anyway, lets ask a basic question here, why do these D-schools put the students through interviews and DAT, is CEED not itself painful enough? Maybe there are certain things that are not tested in CEED. Like, how passionate you are about design or do you have skill set for a specific course. Say, you are applying for Product Design at NID, one skill set might be rendering different solutions to same problem. Hence the interviews are conducted.

Many people ask about beautiful software renderings and other skills. After all these skills do reflect your creativity and visualization capacity, but still in interview you should be able to defend the originality of the concepts and the solution that you have rendered in the software. The same solution may be presented in form of a collection of sketches indicating the development of the concept. So in short, the concept will have more weightage than implementation. Therefore the medium or the software used for rendering will only carry a fractional value.

Hope this helps :)

Anbu said...

Thanks for the great info prasanna it was very helpful n filled my CEED thirst little n need more info from u to make me eligible to CEED 2011 can u give me some ideas about portfolios and wat are the things to be present in it do n don do's i am a B.Tech Automobile Engineering Graduate n interested in Mobility n vehicle design in IDC mumbai awaitingfor ur reply friend

Prasanna Gadkari ( M.Des at I.I.Sc.) said...

Dear Anbu,
Thanks for your comments. It inspired a new post. you can read it here

Anonymous said...

This is pretty useful... Thanks a lot

Naveed Ahmed said...

Huh...finally my first read about how to prepare for CEED and very informative. Thanks a lot.

mEg said...

glad i came across this article. it was of great help. i am a BE in industrial production and trust me i am not satisfied with the kind of work i am doing right now. i know i am creative, i have pretty good drawing skills and i love to read fiction and comics, in fact i created an archie comic strip of my own.:)anyway, i din't want to waste my talent so decided to do something worthwhile.
that is when i came came to know about D schools and design courses and then finally your article.
well i wanna know if i can take up something other than product design (though product design is related to my graduate degree)
i always was intrested in animation too...
could you please help me out here.
regards

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Thanks for ur appreciation mEg. Most of the guys I met had similar beginnings. Thats what drives us. The burning desire to do something cooler!! Ur decision is really worth it. I took up Product Design coz thats something that ppl need. I mean, how can u make life easier for a visually impaired person? or how can u make lathes that are fun to use? An i knew product design was the answer!! Animation is a good choice if u r really into it. There are so many animation institutes out there now a days. And its an ever expanding field. I visited Chitrakatha 2009 events at NID. And it was really beautiful. If animation is ur passion then i suggest nothing less than NID. Though D.J. Academy also has a good name.
Best of luck :)

mEg said...

thank you so much...:) iv got one year for the entrance exam...cause by the time i realized where my interest lied it was too late...hehe..could you please tell me how to prepare for the test, now that i'v got a whole year to study?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

u r very lucky that u realized this late, coz some ppl dont even realize where their interest lied and they live and then die, all in vain! Can u plz be more specific what help u need in preparation? I have listed some tips i could think of in this post. if there is something more that u would like me to write then plz let me know. This blog is for u :)

mEg said...

well i went through the previous year's question papers, it was difficult to figure out what the "correct" answer would be. cz that depends on the person who is evaluating it. i wanted to know how to answer the exam. are there any reliable books that could help me improve my skills and knowledge?

Saira said...

I loved ur blog!! i feel so confident about my prep now! can u plz include some of ur basic sketches as a guidance? can i plz have ur phone number? i mailed u mine. Thanks again.

Srinivasan P said...

hey, thanks for your input. Good for beginners like me. Keep up the good work. Thank you again.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Srinivasan P ,
Its nice to know that u found this blog useful. Plz do let me know if you have any specific difficulties. We can write a post about it and benefit everyone.
Best of luck :)

Praful said...

hi.. i am currently pursuing BE in Electronics and communication (final year) and am taking ceed 2011.. i am interested in pursuing interaction design at IDC.. i wud like to know more about it, like the market scope, places/companies where i cud work, the kind of work...i really donno much about it .. please do help....

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Praful,

Wish u all the best for your preparations.

The best source of information about IDC Interaction Design can be found here

Apart from this, since you are in final year, I strongly suggest you do your Final Year Project at IDC. More information here

I am not much elegible to talk about the placements at IDC myself, but there are some reviews available here

Thanks for dropping by :)
Hope that this information helps.

Best of luck.

Neeti said...

Hi Prasanna,
Firstly, Thanks a lot man! Secondly, I'm doing EEE from BITS,pilani. Final year. I really want to do product design,and i agree with you. It affects people's lives directly. I don't have anything specific to ask..but you know,the exam is in a month, less than that. Just wanted to know, what exactly do they look for in an answer sheet...what should be the mindset..as in, what are the thrust points while giving the paper. Thanks in advance!

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Neeti,

Thanks a lot for dropping by.
You have posed a very interesting question "What exactly do they look for in an answer sheet?".
I am trying to answer to my best possible of my knowledge, yet it is merely an educated guess.

1. Creativity: CEED is all about it! Its not GATE, where you are offered 4 choices. Therefore more creative answer, more you score!! So just think of the possible solutions no one will think of!

2. Clarity:How clearly you articulate an idea. For example, if you want to convey a plane flying in the sky, the best view perhaps will be, the view from the ground!

3. Communication How well you communicate the concept. This directly counts on your ability to sketch! So practice it well.

4. Coherence: While presenting a sequence of events how well is the last frame relevant to the next frame. This directly points to the "read the comic strip" in the post

There you have 4 'C's of CEED :)

Hope that helps.
Best of luck

Neeti said...

I can't believe you answered it that well! thanks so much! :)

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Neeti,

Thanks. The good answer comes from a good question. So thank you for asking such a nice question :P

himabindu said...

Hi Prasanna,

Sometimes in CEED they ask to design a new thing. Like how they asked in 2010 paper. How to face these problems? sometimes we don't have an idea about the product itself and then to design a new thing and in that three hours, it is is difficult. how to face that? sometimes CEED seems to be a luck factor, If we got an idea at the time of exam we can get through otherwise govinda...

himabindu said...

Hi Prasanna,

Sometimes in CEED they ask to design a new thing. Like how they asked in 2010 paper. How to face these problems? sometimes we don't have an idea about the product itself and then to design a new thing and in that three hours, it is is difficult. how to face that? sometimes CEED seems to be a luck factor, If we got an idea at the time of exam we can get through otherwise govinda...

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear himabindu,

What you have just said is very correct. There is a luck factor and a lot is dependent on your ability to apply yourself at the spur of the moment. And yes, three hours is pretty short time!

The luck plays a role for sure, but more you practice the luck seems to grow :P When you have to design a new product, just start with some similar existing product.

For example, if you are asked to design a mixer-grinder, why not begin with a manual grater? Now just try to automate it. Perhaps a slider-crank mechanism will help.

A lot is dependent on your ability to observe everyday objects. These will help you in designing the new ones for sure!

As a summery, sometimes it is best to build upon existing ideas and avoid reinventing the wheel.

Hope this helps :)
Best of luck for your M.Des

himabindu said...

Thank u prasanna.... hmmm i will practice more... only three weeks left :(

ganesh_jangir said...

Hello @ Prasanna Gadkari.

Thanks for such Helpful Blog.

I am KVPY Shcholar, have done some Patented innovations.
Preparing for CEED 2011. I did not join any coaching.
Please tell me how to prepare in this short time.
I can't fined the SOLVED paper for CEED. Would u send link for solved paper.
Is there any alternative to get into M.DES. in IISc, IITies?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Ganesh,
Today I managed to publish a post that will help you prepare for CEED in a couple of days. http://teacupblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/quick-tips-for-lat-minute-preparation.html

I would strongly suggest against looking for a CEED solve paper. It is highly creative exams with no rights and wrongs. Just go out there and let your creativity run loose. A sloved paper will unnecessarily constrain you.

About alternative to CEED. IISc accepts GATE score too as a screening score.

Hope this helps,
Best of luck :)

ankith said...

Hello Prasanna,
I am from B.E in Computer Science and i aspire to join M.Des in product design at iisc or animation at idc .Your blog is really informative and helped me for my CEED preparation. Now only we have 3 days left for CEED. Can you give any handy tips about time management and sketching in the exam? also i had these doubts--
1)in some questions like " design a multipurpose walking stick for elderly......." should we use scale, colour pencils for sketching the final sketch so that it will look more appealing.
2)in some paper, there were questions on making the blast diagram/section views etc. can we use scale and perspectives to draw them?
3)should we carry instruments like french curves?
4)shouldn't we use eraser when we are doing the final sketch?
thank you in advance once again for your valuable advice

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Ankit,

Thanks for dropping by.
A few quick tips on last minute preparation can be found here
1. For any sketch, it would be best to avoid use of any instruments. This not only shows your poor confidence in free hand sketches but also will spoil your creative judgment. If you cant just manage without it, then go ahead.
2. In my experience, if you must use colours (pencils, ball pens, sketch pens, markers) just be sure you are very good at them. Otherwise, simple varying shading in HB pencil is sufficient to communicate the forms and ideas. If you use colour to add value, like to show the red-and-white of stick, then there is no option here.
3. Feel free to use the eraser. Use of eraser is alright even in final sketches. But remember, erasers spoils the beauty of confident and intuitive line-work.
4. Just as a quick practice try to draw the figures given in here once. You can see what is said. Like in the perspective view, i have over-drawn lines, but that still shows the idea.

Feel free to ask any further doubts.

Best of luck :)

Indrajeet said...

Hi prasanna.........I really liked your theory of the 4 C's for CEED. This year CEED had a question that wehad to design a cellphone for the elderly. I had a serious dilemma for this,because from my experience,my grandpa is really afraid of handling new technology. So the more the snazzier and jazzier I make the cellphone by introducing sliders and flips and what not,it is going to put him off. So instead of creativity (of course u cannot eliminate it entirely..!!) will Simplicity and functionality carry more weightage in this question??

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Indrajeet,

I really admire your observational skill. This will add much value to your so called 'design thinking'. I completely agree with the point you made. The design a cellphone for the elderly should be very simple and very intuitive. I wont go into the complete design behind this, but as an apporach take any mobile phone and start subtracting features from it, till you reach bare simplicity. Now with whatever you have left, modify it till you feel confident about the design. This is called subtractive designing This too is a creative process and will carry weightage in this question. I really appreciate that there are people who observe things around them

Keep it up. I dont think i need to wish u luck ;)

Indrajeet said...

Thanks man....You really have done me a hugh favor. i was really beginning to worry whether I had done a right thing or not.....!!!
One more question: is it true that at IISc, You are sort of handicapped if you dont have a GATE score along with your CEED score. Does the institute place more emphasis on the GATE score?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Indrajeet,

IISc does not reveal exactly whether it prefers GATE over CEED, vice-versa or anything else. Though there were many who had appeared for both GATE and CEED in our class (of 2007 - 09) GATE score is considered for IISc and IIT-K design courses. Some just consider GATE as a back up option, though I dont think thats necessary. At IISc your selection is decided based on you score in DAT and interview, while, GATE and/or CEED scores are used just as cut off for applications. Hence my best guess is that, the preference stories are just stories :)

Best of luck

Indrajeet said...

....I saw your profile.....You had one years worth industrial experience in your kitty....HOw much didit help you...??also did you take a sort of sabbatical for few months for CEED preparation?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Indrajeet,

Its true that i worked for a while in Force Motors R&D before appearing for CEED in 2007. I had taken a two months 'sabbatical' (nice way of putting 'unemployed'). I dont know how much the experience helped in me getting though the selection process, but the knowledge definitely helped me a lot during the course. For example, without the exposure to CATIA I had in Force Motors, our final project was as good as lost!

karishma said...

hi prasanna thanx alot for the blog,its really helpful..
i am doing MCA(final yr),and interested in animation,m quite gud with sketching but bad with giving shape to my imagination,m practicing on it..
i've gone thru d previous yr question papers,n there was a question in CEED 2008
"Show the detalis of the product thru d combination of exploded diagram and sectional view,so that the construction of d product is clear"
hw cn v solve dis type of questions
also,this question was in technical representation section,so hw can v prepare for this section,i mean is there ny source or book,from where v cn have knowledge about this stuff??

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear karishma,

The question about the sectional and exploded views is covered under subject of Engineering Drafting. This is common subject in most universities who offer courses in Mechanical Engineering. A very good book is "Engineering Drawing" by N.D.Bhatt. Though this book is not meant for CEED, it contains very good illustrations about the sectional views and exploded views.

I would also like to offer some quick tips on sectional view in one of my posts soon.

Thanks for dropping by. You inspired a new post.

Best of luck :)

karishma said...

thanx alot :)

abhinav said...

Thanks a ton Prasanna .. .your post has answered questions long rooted in my mind... quick thanks once again as a I keep browsing trough your blog :-)

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi Abhinav,
I am happy u found the blog useful. U have a pretty nice photo-blog urself. If u find any specific question about CEED, i'll be happy to answer :)
Take care

karishma said...

hi Prasnna,i want to knw abt NID..
can u plz give some info abt dat?
especially the eligibility criteria..coz i've heard that they ask for min. 1 yr xperience in designing field is it true?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear karishma,
Many design institutes prefer people with some experience, but this is only because they can present better and have something to show in their portfolio as against a fresher. Yet if you are a fresher, and have created something exceptional, which might be better than other experienced candidates, you stand a better chance. Again, experience is not an eligibility criteria in any of the institutes. Fresher has equal likelihood of getting selected as one with experienced candidate. You may look up more about the information on the institutes about the respective websites.

Take care

Indrajeet said...

Hey Prasanna,
For an candidate with experience,is it recommended to have something in the portfolio regarding what work you have done previously i.e if for somebody from sales background.....what can he put up in the portfolio regarding his work-ex?
what if he is in a place which is remotely related to design?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Indrajeet,
The purpose of the portfolio is to show the interview panel how good you are for the course you are interviewed for. Sometimes your work may not be related to the design, and yet it shows some really ground breaking ideas. Maybe a code snippet, that optimizes the program. Or a novel method that reduces the production time of a component. Such things that show your thinking.

Hence, you can present examples from your work experience which are not related with design, but add value.

Best of luck.

abhinav said...

one basic question here Prasanna... I am planning to appear for the exams next year.. if I begin from scratch (rating myself -1 in drawing skills) and follow the above steps rigorously, will six to seven months be sufficient to get through?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear abhinav,
Following these steps, and begining from zero, i was able to get a fairly good score in CEED with a lazy practice of 2 hours each day for 3 months. And that too me, overworking at the company and getting too tired :P

I am sure u can do better than me anytime.

Best of luck :)

ANKIT said...

Hi Prasanna,

I have cleared the CEED and i am going for Mobility and Vehicle Design @ IIT Bombay.
Since childhood i always knew that i wanted to be an auto designer as i am a real auto freak.
did my b.tech in electronics nd communications and i am currently a software engineer but always felt at the wrong place, stuck in the wrong job.
My concern here is that is Mobility and Vehicle Design
worth pursuing??does it have good placements here in india??what are the job prospects because i will be leaving my current job and move to mumbai?
your help will be really appreciated here Prasanna!
lukin forward to ur reply, cheers.

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rannjann90 said...

hello prasanna
i've qualified both ceed and nid(firniture and interior design).but i dont have much idea about making portfolio.i m a final year student of b-tech(ECE).i got bored of b-tech in ece.i realised that i shoud go for designing course.so appeared for the entrances.fortunately i qualified.but i have not designed anything yet and m a fresher.well i used to do some painting and sketching sometimes.i also did decorate stages of functions held in my college.i have done some t-shirt paintings and photography too.what else i can do to have a strong portfolio??? i m confused.plz help me...

aanchal jindal said...

hey....thnx for the advice...its inspiring.
n could you help me out where to get coaching from???
n as i hv 6 mon training now so what to pot for in the same field...so that its helpfull in future.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Aanchal,

Its nice to hear you have 6 months of training already. Personally, I feel it is best to train oneself in the skills one is best at, than to opt for some coaching. You may ask assistance to experts for solving some problems, but the real fun is to discover things ourself. For example, you may learn how to sketch by sketching, than by reading the books on sketching. You may study and imitate some works you like for practice, but best to develipoe it on your own.

Hope it helps.

Best of luck :)

aanchal jindal said...

surely it will......but what are the key strategies to be kept in mind for cracking ceed......i really wish to do it in first go..... n hv planned to prepare of my own.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear aanchal,

Really speaking i never thought about cracking CEED from strategic point of view. Moreover, the above tips are more or less based on my experience. As CEED paper varies greatly each year, its difficult to fix any strategy. You may aim to develop your skills, which will maximize your chances to crack CEED in first attempt. I appeared for CEED during my BTech the first time. Even though i had good score i did not apply anywhere since i had some other constraints.

Best of luck. Do let me know, if you have more questions.

mrinal said...

Hi sir..
I am mrinal sharma , i did my bachelors in design degree , accessory design from NIFT chennai, 2011. This yr i appeared for ceed but i got rank 716 as i scored 44 out of 100 and my percentile 71.6.
I did my best in this ceed paper , but cld nt clear the cut offs. I am still confused whether the paper is more of design or sketching ..
Anyways i ll b again appering in 2012..plz tell how to go through it.
Thanks & regards..

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi Mrinal,

CEED is about expressing your ideas through visual medium of sketching. You need to be good at communication rather than only sketching or only at generating ideas. The exam itself is pretty unpredictable, so even the best prepared candidates can face difficulties. A better approach will be not to constrain yourself and let the thoughts flow. You may need to practice you sketching skill from the perspective of explaining ideas. Looking at your past achievements, competitions you won and NIFT record, I am sure you can communicate well, but can you do the same using just a pencil and in limited time?

Best of luck :)

P.S. I am glad that you are not giving up like many others :)

sanjana said...

HELLO SIR,
i am in 3rd yr of textile design from NIFT,gandhinagar. I want to start my preparation for CEED, from now on. plz, suggest me the study material for the entrance and also elaborate on the scope available after i do my masters in industrial design.
will it be good after a graduation in textiles.?
regards,
sanjana.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi sanjana,

You are already a student of NIFT, so you must be having a good exposure to design, your sketching skills and knowledge of materials would be above average. All this will definitely help in CEED preparations. You don’t need any special material to start preparing, but perhaps a good amount of practice in expressing yourself through sketches will be really useful. There is plenty of scope for industrial design, as more and more companies explore emerging markets in India. You can go for fashion or lifestyle products, which is in line with your graduation or go for consumer good design, automotive styling, etc if that interests you.

Best of luck

sanjana said...

sir,
i also wanted to know how much time should one devote in order to get good rank in CEED.as i am in 3rd year so i want to do my time management accordingly.so please help in that regard. and your blog is indeed very informative for every one who is a ceed aspirant.:)
thanking you in anticipation.

sanjana said...

sir,
i also wanted to know how much time should one devote in order to get good rank in CEED.as i am in 3rd year so i want to do my time management accordingly.so please help in that regard. and your blog is indeed very informative for every one who is a ceed aspirant.:)
thanking you in anticipation.

aditi gour said...

sir my self aditi.. i m final year student persuing my BE in CS.. i found ur blog n ur cmmnts immensefully useful :) plzz hlp me also so tht i crack ceed n get idc mumbai :) i m interstd in interaction design n graphic designing :)

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi sanjana,
Maybe its not the amount of time, its about consistency. If you practice expressing ideas through sketching everyday for some time, it will be far more effective than trying to do it over 5 -6 hours. Try at least sketching out an idea a day. That should be adequate. See previous CEED papers for getting an idea about what you might need to sketch.

sanjana said...

thanx a ton.! sir
your help was much needed.!:)

sanjana said...

thanx a ton sir.!:
your help was much needed :)

sanjana said...

sir,
i tried out questions from iit 2008 sample paper. and i faced difficulty regarding some questions like varieties of uses of egg shape in our everyday objects. i could not completely understand wether we had to design new objects keeoing in mind the original shape or do we need to mention objects that already comprise of the shape. also sir, please mention few books in which i can refer to ceed solved papers .i would like to see the pattern of CEED paper , so plz advice me some books. and i read your prescribed book :-"how to be creative". it was indeed worth reading.
waiting for your reply,
thank you!:)

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi Sanjana,
Hello Snajana,
You asked a significant question that inspired a new post. Please read more about it here
As far as books on CEED are concerned, I have not come across any, hence i decided to write this blog in the first place. If you find any, plz let me know too.
Feel free to ask if you need more help :)

sanjana said...

thank you sir.
:) your post was indeed of much help.and that gave me enough courage to keep writing to you in case if i have any further queries in relation to questions appearing in CEED.

mEg said...

hello sir,
i want to do masters in product designing. could you please throw some light on the studio test prep and also the portfolio requirements. are we supposed to design new products to show in our portfolio?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi mEg,
You can find some portfolio related tips here and some tips on studio test and interviews here. Also find out the schools that offer the course you are looking for along with the course contents and faculty. It will give you some idea what you will be evaluated on. Products are always welcome to be shown along with your portfolio. Feel free to ask if you need more help.

mrinal said...

Hi sir..
I need ur help to find a solution to this problem..
How would a enginner, designer, scientist , a model , a student would draw the following: a square, traingle and a circle.

Regards:
Mrinal

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi Mrinal,
You asked an awesome question.
Plz find the post that you inspired here
Take care

mrinal said...

Hello sir,
You gave an awesome answer sir to my last question..
I still have another question to be asked:
If say a pen is enlarged into 50 times how would it be used ..this is one such question NID used to ask every year either in ug or pg.
What would be the radical approach to solve these type of question?

Regards
Mrinal

sanjana said...

with reference to the designer bird question:-
exploring the design space, bird always have options with trees and they always prefer a shady tree.
secondly they might not look for greater height as they want their young one"s to be safe.
in that case they will always want a place where few birds of their own kind would stay.
at times when the tree branches are divided they probably make their nest in the adjoining area by joining two portions of branches, that would make it pretty strong. buliding nest near to land will be dangerous for them , so they would choose a medium height.
again thanks for your generous ideas.it helped me a lot.!

vysakh916 said...

its helpful
But iam confused !!! Iam a student of Mechanical eng (BE). i came to this field because i love the designing and i think i am creative too.But my drawing side is little bit weak , i would say iam not an artist in freehand drawing ..My comic always had creative edge but the poor drawing skill .. please help me!!!
VYSAKH916@yahoo.in

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello VYSAKH916,
I also did my BE in mechanical eng. And it’s a bit difficult to begin drawing from scratch without loosening yourself first. You can choose to sketch objects of everyday use like mobile phone, calculator, comb, etc. to improve your sketching. But before that I would suggest you go through some loosening up exercises. I have describes some of these in my post here
Feel free to write to me anytime
Best of luck :)

CCD said...

Hi Prasanna,
I found your your blog quite informative and resourceful...
Now let me tell you who am I. I never realise since few years back to persue for a profession I enjoy as my natural flare of art, painting n creativity...then back 2 year I came to know about Ceed but I didnot fullfil my qualification eligibility into IDC Mumbai,since at that time with no option I graduated as a BSc Micro student, I joined MSc Bioinformatics,to first fullfil my eligibility to give design test for best colleges, now I am to prepare for these exams, I would appreciate if you guide me with the resources , where to fetch from books or ebooks, prepare portfolios, to gauge my skill and bridge the difference to crack CEED IDC, I am interested for Visual Communication/ Interaction Design / Animation... I would like to work upon grooming my skill to qualify and get admitted to best institutes or colleges for Art & Design.

CCD said...

I am realy not sure how this is going to work... I found these Design Institutes full of students with background of BFA,Architect,Engg. or Design,I am not sure if there is a place anywhere for students like me who are so much inclined to persue their skill but doesnot have the ed-backgroud as mentioned above...Advise!!!
Suggest for me Where and How to begin my preparation to the Best Output...

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello CCD,
That’s very interesting that you have changed your trades to be eligible for CEED. From the list of your requirements, I do not know of any books written for CEED as of date. But you may not need those at all if you regularly practice your sketching and communication. The tips mentioned in this section were found useful by many and may help you in preparation. Secondly, from my limited observations, you really don’t need to have engineering or architecture background for cracking CEED and securing admission to good design schools. All you need is some common knowledge about how things around you are, how they work and how they might be improved.

As a quick survey take 2010 CEED paper. Q1 requires some visualization and sketching skills, Q2 requires some imagination, Q3 asks 5 uses of CD, Q4 asks problems you might face with pressure cooker, Q5 again requires some visualization and sketching skills, Q6 requires some design thinking. None of them ask for any engineering or architecture specific knowledge. So just relax and prepare for CEED

Maybe, not all the people in your trade take a decision like you have taken and hence none of their names appear on the list of candidates.

Best of luck

mohit acharya said...

hi prasanna,
i wanna know wether there are any other colleges under CEED exams other than IITs, IISE, NIDs mentioned in the CEED prospectus.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Mohit,
Please go thorough this link to find a comprehensive information about the institutes you will be eligible through CEED

ashwin said...

Hi Prasanna,
This is a lil off topic but could you tell me about MIT Institute of Design. I wanted to pursue an Industrial Design course over there( Product Design) but do not know much about the college.

CCD said...
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CCD said...

Hi Prasanna,

You got such a nice flare of writing esp replying so well around diverse people's thought centers...

I also wanted to know how long is the CEED score valid... is it only for a year?
When do specific college, university open their admission forms, like i dont see any application forms available for IDC right now...

On the other hand , as you said there might not be any book for CEED...yet, can you hint me if there are any such reading/ exercise/activity material/media resources which helps me try out and work upon developing, furnishing and sharpening my creative skills, innovative thinking ability and knowledge....in context what CEED and IDC Visual communication/ Animation/ Interation Design focuses on....for eg I learn something about typography as a subject at IDC and found interesting on the part of how letters reveal design, curves, story and meaning to itself...something more than just caligraphy...I would appreciate if I can some references to know more on some titles on visual comm., animation, interactive design....

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Ashwin,
I personally do not know much about the MIT ID School in Pune. There was an article in Sakaal news paper which praises the school and it appears that the skills they develope in students is really one that can fetch you a very good job! Best of luck.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello CCD,
Thanks for your appreciation :)
As said on CEED IIT-B site here the score is valid for two years.
You have asked a very good question. The knowledge of typography or other topics in Visual Communication is not really expected while appearing for interviews. Besides, it will unnecessarily cloud your mind with ideas and you may not complete appreciate what is taught at your D-school. If you want to know about these topics in general, a glance through Wikipedia should be sufficient to convince the interviewer about your interest in the course. Secondly, you may include some typography work in your portfolio if you wish so. You can use some of these as a source of inspiration.
Have a nice day :)

mrinal said...

Hello sir.
I still have one dought in one of the questions of ceed,there is railway station scene and the question lists as:
1.write the problems from the point of users.
2. briefly justify each
3. Illustrate a solutions for each problem through sketch.

Sir what would be the best way to answer thesse and in what it can be best answered.Sir plz do help me in this question.

Thanks & regards
Mrinal

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Mrinal,
You must have visited railway station many times. The question here calls for your observation skills as a designer. A few of the problems can be:
1.There is no safety rail on platform, so the passenger may fall on the track during rush hour
2.Often the stairs on railway stations are not supplemented with ramp, so its difficult to carry on bags with wheels
3.It is not very easy to find toilets on railway station because there is no central information board at many places
4.The chairs provided at railway station are not sufficient
5.The information about the routes is not displayed clearly at many places
You can use this as a guidance to answer such questions. There is no trick to help with this, but you need to understand the situation. The picture provides a guide to you in case you miss out on something.
Best of luck

mrinal said...

Dear sir,
Thanks a lot for your answer.

Sir ,regarding ceed or nid preparation one thing that i have followed regarding some problems is as listed :

The best way is to divide the people segments as such into: kids, college students, handicapped , blind people, and old aged peoples.
2. Listing down each group behaviour,habbits, likes and problems
3. Thinking solution-analyse each problem carefully and solve how it can be done.

Sir the above process can be very helpfull to every products related to them as well as time saving as far as i feel because every year either in ceed or nid a question comes related to old age, kids, hadicaaped etc. So if we carefully follow these step we can solve any propblem related to cell phones, stick etc. that are related to them.

Sir your suggestion would be needed in this regard.

Regards
Mrinal

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Mrinal,
This is really a good approach to solve such types of problems! From what i understand, you will try to understand what all problems a blind man will face in using the existing product. How many different and unique problems do you come across using this method?

mrinal said...

Hello sir,
After going through the ceed papers i still have one dought in the following question.
Q1-In what way a designers can solve the problem of "Adult Literacy" or "Child Labour".

Regards
Mrinal

NIM said...

this is really valuable advice... thank u very much...

Shivani said...

hello sir
M shivani ,btech with ME.nd is preparing for ceed..sir i want to know that apart from sketching nd creativity part,how can i prepare for communication skill nd Gk...???

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Shivani,
I really see your concern as I have not covered the Communication skills and GK part anywhere on my blog. If you study the previous year CEED paper you will observe that GK has a Weightage of about 10 marks maximum. Probably a person who reads daily news paper can attempt half of the questions. Secondly, even if you cant attempt a single GK question, but you have done a really great work in the other sections (like visual communication and product design), still your score should be really high enough. Maybe the only preparation needed for GK and communication skill is reading daily news paper and perhaps a brush of your 10th standard English text book :)
Feel free to ask any more questions
Best of luck

mrinal said...

Hello sir,
Well sir i got my answer reagrding the child labour qusetion..
Sir there was qustn regarding biomechanics .as suggest the role played by different fingers while holding a tea cup and forces acting on it...?in ceed 2007.
A little help in this question in much needed sir....
Do we need to have a rough biomechanics also.

Thanks & regards
Mrinal

mrinal said...

Hello sir,
Regarding the tea cup question ,i could comw eith this solution.

Sloution:
1.Index finger: Intitial step towards holding the cup is laid down by index finger.It provides the direction to other fingers.

2. Middle finger: It acts as an substitute to make sure that the force is not laid down to any other dirction.

3.Ring finger: It doesnt do much work.It stabilises the force acted upon.

4.Little finger: Little finger does the finishing work.It makes sure that the force is firmly balanced .

5.Thumb:Most of the work is done by the thumb.It only transfers the weight to the cup ,it provides the necessary pressure or the binding force that makes sure all the actions get together to give sych an impact that can hold the object. It provides the necessary guidance that enables the hand to move freely while holding the cup.It makes the counter pressure.

Force: Our body is composed of positive ions, while the cup has negative ions ,in a way when there is contact with the cup and the body, these two charges gets attracted to each other. Thus the cup is holded firmly.in this case electrostatic force is acted upon.

Sir i am not an enginneering student,so there might be some mistakes in the techincal part.

Well i some other doughts,That i will ask in the meantime.

Thanks & regards
Mrinal

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Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi mrinal,
This is really a great reply.
The point about forces and their charges is bit off the track and i dont think it needs to be mentioned.
Nice work.
Thanks for posting in comments.

Shivani said...

Thanks sir,for guidance..sir,there is a ques in which we have to find 5 unique problem of pressure cooker.plz help me in this type of questions..and the images in them r for refernce only or we have 2 find defect in them??????also i wanna know can we use water colours in colouring part???as i feel more comfortable with them...:)

nithisha said...

hey hii,
hope everything is fine on ur side.
i just want to know how to prepare for CEED in detail accordingly.
at present i am doing my btech 3rd year in eee branch .so can i apply for CEED in my final year that is 2012 september ?
thank you...!!

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Nithisha,
If you have any specific queries on preparation of CEED feel free to post it on the blog or mail it. I have purposely not written the post in great detail because each aspirant has a distinctive style of preparing and i just wanted to preserve that style. All i want you to is use these tips as guidelines instead of setting up some rigid methods. And it would be just unfair of me to set up such methods, if at all you need those, for you.

mrinal said...

Dear sir,
Some of institutes have uploaded the m.des form, like the iit kanpur and iiitdm jablpur.
But the worry is iit kanpur does not mentioned the last date for applying the form and the iiitdm jablpur has ask for the ceed score and its session will be commencing from jan 2012.Its bit confusing and even though iitdm jabalpur test and interview will be hld on 12 dec.
Sir if you guide us in this matter , it would be very useful.

Thanks & Regards
Mrinal

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hi Mrinal,
Even i am not able to make sense of this information. Sorry.

Shivani said...

sir,pl give some guidance on this defect finding problems(eg.pressure cooker)...

mrinal said...

Dear sir,
Regarding the pressure cooker problems: Following are some of the problems it faces.:
1. There is no pressure control system mechanism .
2.Some times the lid of the cooker is not closed properly-So a lid close detection mechanism should be there.
3. During cooking ,food particles jam the steam release.
4.The base of the cooker can be of multilayered as it can prevent the overheating of food.
5. There is no safety indicator.
6. There is no pressure release valve on the pressure cooker. It is generally done manualy.
7. There should be two handles attached so that it becomes easy to handle it , As carrying the pressure cooker with single handled becomes uneasy.
8. In order to reduce the temp of the cooker sometimes it is generally kept under stream of water . The problem of lowering of temp .
Sir if there is any mistakes plz do correct me.

Thanks & Regards
Mrinal

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Shivani,
You can read the comments posted in this section. Looks like Mrianl has already done a lots of work. Kepp it up :)

Shivani said...

thanku sir...
and thanks mrinal...:)

karishma said...

hi prasanna, i've gone thru d book seeds for CEED, there are around 100 questions for self practice, some re very easy,some are tricky..
so i need ur help to solve some of them so dat i cud get an idea of the approach to solve those tricky questions...

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello karishma,
How is that book? I am not very sure whether publicly sending those questions is advisable or not. maybe you can mail me. I'd love to help.
best of luck

mrinal said...

Hello sir,
Theres a point at which i am stuck in and i need ur suggestion to get rid of the problem.
The problem is designing products related to kids.As what all factors should be kept in mind while desiging products for kids ,lets say 3-6 yrs.
As like : desiging a water bottle to be used by kids in a playground.

Sir, do guide me in this problem.

Thanks & Regards
Mrinal

karishma said...

hi..
the book is good..
i found it helpful n motivating..
thanx fr d reply i will send u the doubts through mail..
thanx alot.. :)

karishma said...

hey prasanna.. i want to ask u 1 very basic thing, though i've been preparing for CEED frm 4 months,but i jst sketch things jst like dat,n still smtimes i feel like m still not dat good in sketching, so wat do u think i shud practice to improve my sketching??

CCD said...

Hi Prasanna,

What is that book you mention in this blog...can u suggest...pls.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello CCD,
The book we were talking about is called Seeds for CEED. Someone has bought it, but i have no idea how it is... so i really cannot comment on it at this point :(

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Mrinal,
While designing products for the kids here are a few pointers:
•The color should be bright and vivid.
•The dimensions of various parts like handles or the bottle tops should be as per the kids dimensions
•The shape should avoid sharp corners, to prevent from getting hurt while playing
•It should avoid small loose parts, to avoid choking if caught in nose or mouth
•It should be resistant to impact or rough usage, since its meant to be played with
•It should not use harmful materials in construction
•It should not have parts that can be easily be put in mouth by the kids, to avoid kids from doing that
•It should have as less stickers as possible, as they might cause contamination
•It should be easy to clean, and must be cleaned each time it’s given to kid
Maybe you can think about more.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Karshma,
I would need to have a look at your sketches in order to recommend any improvements. you can mail them to me over my gmail address pg2005.pg@gmail.com

mrinal said...

Thanks a ton sir for all your valuable advice.

I made some of the concepts like:

1. As the kids love to play in the ground with their products , so the bottle can have bubble sprayer technique on its cap ,which the kids love to make bubbles and blow it.
2. The bottle can be like holi pitckari, the bottle can have spraying system.
3. The kids love to throw things , so the bottle can be composed of different colorful tubes of varying radius which can be easily removed from the bottle. So just kids can fix the bottle at one end and throw the tubes in it, as it can be game for them.
4.The bottle can be like puzzle.
5. The bottle can also be used as binocolurs.
6. Kids love to fly kites in open air, so the bottle can be used as to wind the threads which will help them to fly kites.

Sir these are some concepts of the bottle and each bottle has different shape.

Again sir, thanks a lot:

Thanks & Regards:
Mrinal

Bagad Baba bole.....!! said...

A slight detour here.......!!!! there was a question for last 2 years.: you have been given a few shapes: "2 cylinders,2 hemispheres, 3 wires and a cube. try and make a useful product out of it. Shapes may be of any size."

This superimposed with the Mrinals's question....sounds and interesting prospect....!!!

karishma said...
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karishma said...

hello sir,
i was making a list of uses of a flower pot other than its usual use, so i've got li'l bit confused, dat the flower pots can be of plastic or of mud, so while listing the uses, can we list for both of them, or we have to select 1 out of 2???
as plastic can float,but mud can not, n mud can be heated,but plastic can not tolerate the heat, we can cut the plastic into shapes, we want to, but we can not cut mud pot...

Hiral N said...

Hey Prasanna,
There is this question in last year's paper about stating 4 different 'forms' of a line... an example stated is that of a stem with leaves....
I wanted to know if listing a feathered hat, a holder for wind-chimes and a heeled shoe were valid as 'forms' ?

Thanks :)

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Hiral,
Your solutions are valid ones. Any solution that uses the line as the central theme is valid one
Best of luck

sreeram said...

can yu tell me what are the materials or instruments should i carry to the examination hall ????

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Sreeram,
Its upto you what you wish to carry. You can find my recommendations here

Anand said...

dear Prasana,

Im preparing for CEED this year. Please reply how to answer the following question

-In what way a designers can solve the problem of "Adult Literacy" or "Child Labour".

Mrinal Sharma said...

Dear sir,
one last query regarding ceed before the ceed exams, Please sir do help me in thsi last doubt.:
How cana designer solve the problm of adult litrcy and child labour:

Hoping for a positive reply

Thanks & regards
Mrinal

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello,
Plz see my post on this here

Anand said...

thx for the reply...

I came up with an answer for the child labor problem..
The problem of child labor can be solved by creating awareness among people through social networking sites like facebook and twitter..To make people realise that we employ child labour in our every day to day activities, people can share the instances in which they have seen children in work.. They could decide to stop purchasing products from stores and shops that employ children and create awarness among the local community by campaigning against those shops through social networking..

Pls give your feedbacks regarding this answer...

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Anand,
You have a good point. You have proposed use of social networking sites to create awareness about the problem of child labors. This can be done by anyone, designer or a non-designer. How do you propose a more designer oriented solution?

Anand said...

I get it... The answer should be given from a designers perspective...

Thank you for the feedbacks and ur answer for the questions...

Mrinal Sharma said...

Dear sir,
Thanks a lot for all your help and support. It was really helpful.

Thanks & Regards
Mrinal

CCD said...

Hey Ceed had exam pattern change I suppose this year.., however it was fun giving CEED

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Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Mrinal and CCD,
I am really happy that CEED went well for you. Hope you have good days ahead too :)

Dighe Patil said...

plz suggest me something to do in my spare 5 months.. i m weak at drawing, so joining sketching classes. How about Catia ?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello,
I guess you have appeared for CEED. I suggest you to visit the websites of the institutes where you wish to apply. sometimes the forms are out before the results, so keep an eye. Meanwhile, i dont think you need to do anything else in next few days other than applying for the courses. Enjoy :)

Dighe Patil said...

oh.. no. i mean i have year drop after secon year of engg. i have had exams in november and now free for having some stuff for my hobby. I am interested in aesthetics and ergonomics of mobility. i am totally free now a days. so what should i do make myself "to be automotive designer" your guidance will matter a lot to me

Dighe Patil said...
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Dighe Patil said...

Thanks for your guidance for me and many fellows who dont know about how to get their dreams come true.. you eventually helping us to achieve our goals.. not any exclaimation. A big thanks from me and all fellows who got directed by you.. :)

Dighe Patil said...

Thanks for your guidance for me and many fellows who dont know about how to get their dreams come true.. you eventually helping us to achieve our goals.. not any exclaimation. A big thanks from me and all fellows who got directed by you.. :)

priya said...

Hello Prasanna,

I ve appeared for CEED 2012.We were informed that , the person who qaulifies PART- A, only those will be considered in PART B. there were forty qns. each carries 1.25. So do u have any idea like how much will be the cutt off

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Priya,
Thats a very difficult question. For the cut-off you will need to know how many candidates appeared and how well did they attempt. So, if too many candidates did well, then the cut-offs will go pretty high. There isn't much point in wondering about the cut-off, since further each IIT will have their own cut-offs
Best luck

priya said...

Thank u Prasanna

chetanyadav said...

sir suppose i get through ceed, now DAT!..i will apply to different iits..they call applicants in the month of apr or may(which happens to be crucial months of continous exams 2nd term-int pracs-ext pracs-end term all in row, morover it will be my 8th sem..so expect the placement stuff alongside...so you think my sem will clash with DAT and interviews( all iits are really far except iitd,so take at least 5days for every insti)...it will take 1yr to be in such situation as my ceed is in '13...

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Chetan,
I agree with you. Clashes between academics and CEED admission process do happen. I dont think there is much that can be done about it except than prioritizing.

chetanyadav said...

hey sir, thanks for your previous ans...I had asked an unrealistic ques(thinking of DAT without clearing ceed).
My next ques is of colouring sec.- "2 cars were given and we were asked to give them feminine and masculine apperance resp.(use min 2 colors)"..my doubt is- can I add spokes,grills mirrors,graphics, and can I alter the shape too like of bumpers..etc
sir you may also give ans in context of other ques"color 2shoes so that they convey expressions- angry and happy resp"

chetanyadav said...

second ques for you sir-
while drawing am i expected to use perspective even when i don't need it? and i if my completed sketch is left with lines of perspective still visible what impression it will leave on examiner? thank you

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Chetan,
1. you cannot modify the form as given to you. so you can rely on adding color texture or form as you like for the masculine/feminine car and the shoe problem.

2. The drawing in CEED is to convey your idea. if you find that you can best do it through use of perspectives (like in case of bus stops, tall buildings, etc) you can use it to depict realism of your idea, but that's not necessary as long as the idea is being conveyed in its best form according to you.

Dighe Patil said...

Hi..

i am an engineering student. Presently having year drop in second year. I am willing to be an automobile designer and found way for it. Just fear of sketching & drawing appears in mind. I have lots of ideas, but not able to express them on sheet. Please help of out of this. I an presently trying to solve ceed question papers. What else should i do in my spare time to improve my drawing ? Yous reply going to help me a lot. Thanks.. !!

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Dighe Patil,
Maybe you can have a look at this post. It shows method of quick sketching that will remove your fear of sketching and make your practice of sketching easier.
Once you develop that, you are free to sketch out your ideas as and when you like.
Tell me how it goes.

chintan said...

Hi Prasanna,
Help me for mascot design and logo design.

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Chintan,
What help do you need on logo and mascot design?

chintan said...

I don't know about logo design and mascot design...
I wanted to know how can I get idea for logo and mascot design?

chetanyadav said...

Hello sir
Thank you again for this blog, but I'll be really grateful to you if you help me with something for NID entrance too..NID hasn't uploaded any previous yrs paper! I know design is a subjective field but there should be a hint at least :(you know there are plenty insti's which are claiming to provide old exam papers..should I go for those learning packages?

chetanyadav said...

For instance the only material I got is this
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/24967691/NID-Sample-paper---PGDPD

Here, I have problem in Section-II, Q1-shadow problem(I really didn't understand what they mean in this ques) Q2-tessellations( what is it? ) Q4-design principle( Is perspective and reflection the ans ? )...
And sir pls ask any of your friends for Nid's exam papers,thanks

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Chetan,
I am myself not qualified enough to answer queries about NID questions, and unfortunately my friends at NID are not much responsive to help in this regards. The paper to which you have sent the link appears that the author has written based on his/her memory. I am sure the actual question paper will be much clear than this.
Sorry for not being able to elp you with this :(

P.K.S. said...

Hey Prasanna, some people say that the global exposure students receive at NID and IDC is very bad and that the faculty are not good enough.. what do u think?? Does it really matter if we do industrial design inside or outside india??

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello PKS,
I personally believe that global exposure is something that can be created with or without going for a design degree. There are famous people in design field without formal degrees. If you want to apply for courses outside India, then it will be "global exposure" just because you are stepping out of your home country. There are too many institutes and too many parameters to really say what is best. Further, its a very personal choice that can determine what works for you and what does not
Let me know what you feel :)

P.K.S. said...

Hmm yeah i agree to that. I am interested in social design, like implementing innovative solutions for development and product design with a social aspect. Do u think i could find a suitable environment at NID, IDC or CPDM ??

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello PKS,
Based on my experience IDC and CPDM are completely in support of social design. For example, even our final year project, Cashew Shelling machine and my internship project, "Braille Watch" was fully inline with social design.
Therefore, your carer goals will be fulfilled there.

P.K.S. said...

Hey thanx a lot Prasanna.. Its great to have someone answer doubts so promptly.. :D

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello PKS,
No need to thank me really... i've been in service industry for couple of years :D

Amol Mahajan said...

Hii Prasanna.... Simply Gr8....
and thanks 4 ur support for students...
Prassana I am Mechanical Engineer working in metal industry from last 2 ys and for the very 1st time i have given ceed exam and cleared obc cutoff bt due to certificate probs they considered me general.... apart from that i am ready to take 2 i.e. for CEED 2013 Need ur help in this regards.. 1)dose work exp counts during admission??
2)Need some sketching tips since im not gud in sketching
3)Info about DAT.
awaiting for ur reply.... thanking in advance!!!!

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Amol,
Thanks Amol :)
1. there is mixed opinion about experience. Candidates with experience in design industry, esp. design studios, are observed to fare better thanks to their skill in presenting design and superior portfolio in general. Apart from that its hard to tell if general experience is really counted
2. you will find some sketching tips here
3. you will find some information related to DAT here

LAKHAN said...

Nice info has been provided

Says


http://www.indiangiftguru.com/91_400/subcategory/Holi/Holi-Pitchkari-Water-Guns/

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Chintan,
Sorry for the late reply
A post for designing logos and mascots here

Karan said...

Hi...
Thanks a ton fr this blog! :)
i am a mech. engineering student nw and wist to study PG. course in Transportation Design in India.
Apart from IIT and MIT, Pune i came to know about DSK-ISD,Pune & DYP-DC,Pune.
Any idea about what to expect in their entrance exam question papers??

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Karan,
I am really sorry, but none of my friends applied for these institutes, so i dont know what to expect in exams held by them. If you apply, i'd like to invite you to write a guest post in this blog to share your knowledge if you want to.

Nitin Sauran said...

Prasanna thats realy gud stuff....i hav been called for situation test in IDC....and i have no freaking idea wat will they ask and wat i'll have to do......interview is followed by it.....cud u guide me? thank you :)

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Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Nitin,
Congratulation on getting a call from IDC.
After discussing with few of my friends at IIT-B IDC, it appears that 'situation tests' are introduced this year. Our best guess is that, you might be presented with a scenario, and you are asked to 'design' your way out of it! For example, you loose the key to the room and you have to get out of it in say one hour. What will you do?

Nitin said...

hi.... i am a BE in electronics engg. and trust me i am not satisfied with the kind of work i am doing right now. i qualified all the drawing exams in good grade.i know i am creative.i love to read fiction and comics, i din't want to waste my talent so decided to do something worthwhile. i always was intrested in product design and industrial design too... could you please help me out here. thanks in advance.....

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Nitin,
I would be really glad to help anyone aspiring for ID or PD. I have collection of links to help you here
Tell me if you have more doubts

Mrinal Sharma said...

Hello sir,
I have qualified for NID Product design. Thanks a lot for all your help.
Thank you so much sir.

Regards:
Mrinal

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hey Mrinal,
congratulations i always knew that u'd make it!!
I should change the name of this blog now too :)
enjoy going to NID :)

Mrinal Sharma said...

Hello sir,
Sir You remember i spoke to you regarding some design competitions, i even mailed you the link a year back. Sir this year again i particpted & sir guess finally I won the competition in Honk-kong beating all other accessories designers from different parts of the world . Sir I, will be going to collect my prize in honk-kong on 26th march.All will be financed by the organisers.

Thanks you sir for all your guidance.

Regards:
Mrinal

zee said...

Hy prasanna,I want to do Mdes...I had not appeared for ceed xam,so I found out that DAIICT is providing Mdes Through there own entrance xam...So I want to know that Is Daiict is Good for Mdes...and how to prepare for it..link for DAIICT is http://www.daiict.ac.in/daiict/admissions/mdes.html........what is the sCope of Communication Design in present Market...

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Zee,
I visited the link you have seen, and read the course contents of what they are offering. It appears to be a decent course in visual communication with elements of interaction design. Still I do not know how well the course is executed, since I have no friends who can provide good opinions over the matter. Secondly, interaction design and visual communication have an excellent future as number of IT companies are growing and so does the need for designing new interactions and communication systems.
Best of luck for your future

zee said...

thanks Prasanna for your reply...

chetanyadav said...

Hello sir
Last month I was solving the ques of 2011 in which one option had to be selected as the correct unfolded solution to Tetrahedron. Sir, this ques took 45minutes to solve. What I did was, marked each face with a number and marked corresponding no. in options as well then checked. Is there any other way to do it? There a similar ques in 2010 with a complex 3d box to be unfolded.

chetanyadav said...
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chetanyadav said...

Hello sir
What is the difference between story board and comic strip? Next question, I'm not able to differentiate between differnt type faces or font, can you help?

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Chetan,
Its skillful to answer such questions. There is a simple technique. You can actually use your eraser for this purpose.
Mark the faces on the eraser (which probably is almost cubical in shape) and attempt it.
It’s a small trick you can use for many questions. Just remember what all you are carrying in your instrument box :)

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Chetan,
The question you asked was really nice. It inspired a new post which i have published here

prateek singh baghel said...

hi prasanna,
i would like to ask u that i am not very good at free hand drawing but quite good at designing mechanical parts and all that , so can u tell me if i could think of doing m.des .

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Hello Prateek,
If you are good at designing mechanical parts, you are halfway towards doing MDes. Just think about a cell phone. It is ultimately enclosed in a mechanical part, viz. the cover. What gives real meaning to any mechanical part is its ease of use, its beauty and how innovative it is!
Therefore I recommend you to continue designing the parts, which you are already good at, just see the bigger picture, like what function it serves, how it is going to be used and what is the ultimate aim behind designing it. Once you have done it, and you like it, you can choose if you want to do MDes or not :)

Mrinal Sharma said...

Hello Sir,
Sir I made it to the final lists of NID Product design..I am selectd for pgdpd. YOur blog was like a tablet to me help, it really helped me lot towards my prepration and most of all , its you only who guided me throught by answering my everymails , messages or any other.
Sir, If at any point of time I would help other aspirants for nid or ceed , or towards your blog,
I would b grateful....
I would love to be part of your blog and would like to help others as you did...kudos to your "TEA CUP BLOG". I would always remember teacup.

Regards:
Mrinal Sharma

Prasanna Gadkari (M.Des in Product Design from I.I.Sc. ) said...

Dear Mrinal,
That’s a really awesome news man!! Congratulations on getting into NID-PD!! I always had confidence in your abilities, and finally you proved it!!
You can always write to me in the future anytime you feel like :)
It would be really awesome if you can mail a small write up of your experience. Even better if you can post some tips.
Just mail them to me anytime, I will publish it under your name and whatever contact info you wish to provide :)
Best of luck for ur future
Really soo happy for you
Take care

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